For Discussion: These 2 images were chosen just as a point of reference for a discussion I would like to have. Both break common axioms for what makes a proper picture. My feeling is that If you take to heart what many of the pundits on videos say about the perfect compositional technique you may come to believe that you must always create an image in which the subject is placed in the ideal position in the frame and made to dominate the image by use of leading lines, significant cropping, removal of any distractions or unnecessary content. While that is an important consideration for some images like portraits it could ruin others if applied indiscriminately in my view. How do these axioms apply to an abstract or even a landscape in many cases. Also you are told that the image should tell a story? Again using an abstract as an example, the only abstracts I have every seen with a story maybe where done by Picasso. Are these axioms really only relavent to certain type of image or every image? Personally, I like photographs that have little visual treats scattered about them for the viewer to enjoy and maybe more than one subject. One definition of fine art is: creative art, especially visual art whose products are to be appreciated primarily or solely for their imaginative, aesthetic, or intellectual content. What do you think?